Lucid Trading vs Phidias Propfirm
Lucid Trading scores higher on PropFirmly's rating, 6.1 to 5.4 out of 10. Below, the two futures firms row by row: a dot marks the side ahead where a row has a clear direction. Both checked on or after 25 October 2026.
Lucid Trading
United States
Ahead on 6 of 12 rows
Visit Lucid Trading(opens the firm’s website in a new tab)Phidias Propfirm
Gibraltar
Ahead on 6 of 12 rows
Visit Phidias Propfirm(opens the firm’s website in a new tab)Head to head
| Feature | Lucid Trading | Phidias Propfirm |
|---|---|---|
| PropFirmly score | 6.1 (ahead) | 5.4 |
| Trustpilot | 4.5 (7,805) | Not shown |
| Years operating | 2 | 3 (ahead) |
| Headquarters | United States | Gibraltar |
| Cheapest $100K account | $158 (ahead) | $273/mo |
| Profit split, up to | 90% | 100% (ahead) |
| Max funding | $750K | $1.55M (ahead) |
| Programs | 1-step, Instant funding | 1-step |
| Platforms | NinjaTrader, Tradovate, TradingView, Rithmic, Quantower, Tradesea, MotiveWave, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw Daytradr, Bookmap, ATAS, R|Trader Pro, MultiCharts (ahead) | Rithmic, R|Trader Pro, Quantower, ATAS, Sierra Chart, Bookmap, MotiveWave, Jigsaw Daytradr, Tradovate, TradingView, NinjaTrader, DeepCharts |
| News trading | Allowed with limits | Allowed (ahead) |
| Expert advisors | Allowed (ahead) | Not allowed |
| Copy trading | Allowed (ahead) | Allowed with limits |
| Overnight holding | Not allowed | Allowed with limits (ahead) |
| Weekend holding | Not allowed | Allowed with limits (ahead) |
| Payouts | No fixed payout window. LucidPro: after each cycle's profit goal at 40% consistency. LucidFlex: after five profitable days. LucidDaily: daily above the buffer. LucidDirect: after each profit goal at 20% consistency. | Fundamental: every 10 qualifying trading days. Premium: every 5 qualifying trading days. Express to Live: one fixed bonus when the CASH target is reached, then daily withdrawals on the LIVE account. |
| Payout methods | ACH, Bank wire, PayPal, Crypto, WorkMarket (ahead) | Rise |
| US traders | Accepted | Accepted |
Pick Lucid Trading if
you care most about propFirmly score, cheapest $100K account and platforms. It is ahead on those rows in the table above.
Pick Phidias Propfirm if
you care most about years operating, profit split, up to and max funding. It is ahead on those rows in the table above.
Challenges side by side
Every account from both firms. The table opens at $100K, the size both sell nearest $100K.
Challenges 10
| Steps | Profit target | Daily loss | Max loss | Buy | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
 Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $25K | 1 StepLucidFlex | 5% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.25 | 90% | $39$65 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $25K | 1 StepLucidDaily | 5% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.25 | 90% | $43.20$72 | Buy |
 Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $25K | 1 StepExpress to Live (Evaluation + Activation Fee) | 6% | None | 2% | 3.00 | 80% | $35.20$88 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $50K | 1 StepLucidDaily | 6% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.50 | 90% | $56.40$94 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $25K | 1 StepLucidPro | 5% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.25 | 90% | $64.80$108 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $50K | 1 StepLucidFlex | 6% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.50 | 90% | $69$115 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $100K | 1 StepLucidDaily | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $94.80$158 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepFundamental (Monthly) | 8% | None | 5% | 1.60 | 80% | $65.60$164/mo | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $50K | 1 StepLucidPro | 6% | 2.4% | 4% | 1.50 | 90% | $103.20$172 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $100K | 1 StepLucidFlex | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $129$215 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $150K | 1 StepLucidDaily | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $137.40$229 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $100K | 1 StepLucidPro | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $163.20$272 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepFundamental (Monthly) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 80% | $109.20$273/mo | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $25K | 1 StepExpress to Live (One-Time Payment) | 6% | None | 2% | 3.00 | 80% | $110.80$277 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepExpress to Live (Evaluation + Activation Fee) | 5% | None | 1.3% | 3.85 | 80% | $111.20$278 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepExpress to Live (Evaluation + Activation Fee) | 3.5% | None | 0.8% | 4.38 | 80% | $127.20$318 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $150K | 1 StepLucidFlex | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $193.80$323 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $25K | InstantLucidDirect | None | None | 4% | n/a | 90% | $197.40$329 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepPremium (Monthly) | 8% | None | 5% | 1.60 | 75%to 100% | $131.60$329/mo | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $150K | 1 StepLucidPro | 6% | 1.8% | 3% | 2.00 | 90% | $219$365 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepExpress to Live (Evaluation + Activation Fee) | 3% | None | 0.67% | 4.48 | 80% | $159.20$398 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepPremium (Monthly) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 75%to 100% | $164.40$411/mo | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepFundamental (Monthly) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 80% | $168$420/mo | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $50K | InstantLucidDirect | None | 2.4% | 4% | n/a | 90% | $309$515 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepPremium (Monthly) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 75%to 100% | $228$570/mo | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepFundamental (One-Time Payment) | 8% | None | 5% | 1.60 | 80% | $232$580 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $100K | InstantLucidDirect | None | 2.1% | 3.5% | n/a | 90% | $420$700 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepExpress to Live (One-Time Payment) | 5% | None | 1.3% | 3.85 | 80% | $289.20$723 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepFundamental (One-Time Payment) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 80% | $289.20$723 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $50K | 1 StepPremium (One-Time Payment) | 8% | None | 5% | 1.60 | 75%to 100% | $289.20$723 | Buy |
Lucid Trading4.57.8K | $150K | InstantLucidDirect | None | 2% | 3.33% | n/a | 90% | $501.60$836 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepFundamental (One-Time Payment) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 80% | $345.20$863 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepExpress to Live (One-Time Payment) | 3.5% | None | 0.8% | 4.38 | 80% | $360$900 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $100K | 1 StepPremium (One-Time Payment) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 75%to 100% | $360$900 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepExpress to Live (One-Time Payment) | 3% | None | 0.67% | 4.48 | 80% | $449.20$1,123 | Buy |
Phidias PropfirmSince 2023 | $150K | 1 StepPremium (One-Time Payment) | 6% | None | 3% | 2.00 | 75%to 100% | $449.20$1,123 | Buy |
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What could each one pay you?
An illustration, not a forecast: a steady monthly return on the funded account, at each firm's starting split, against the fee for its cheapest account at that size. Most traders do not pass, and returns are rarely steady.
Lucid Trading
- Your share over the period
- Fee
- Split
Phidias Propfirm
- Your share over the period
- Fee
- Split
More comparisons
Lucid Trading vs
Lucid Trading vs Phidias Propfirm questions
Which is cheaper, Lucid Trading or Phidias Propfirm?
At $100K, Lucid Trading's cheapest account is $158 (LucidDaily) and Phidias Propfirm's is $273 (Fundamental (Monthly)), at list price before discounts. Price alone does not decide which is easier to pass: compare the targets and loss limits in the table above.
Which pays a higher profit split?
Phidias Propfirm advertises the higher maximum split: 100% against 90%. The starting split is often lower and rises with payouts or an add-on.
Which firm has been operating longer?
Phidias Propfirm was founded first, in 2023. Lucid Trading started in 2024.
Can traders in the United States use Lucid Trading or Phidias Propfirm?
Lucid Trading: yes. Phidias Propfirm: yes. Both firms publish a list of restricted countries, linked from their profile pages here.
Do Lucid Trading and Phidias Propfirm allow news trading?
Lucid Trading: allowed with limits (Allowed on LucidPro, LucidFlex and LucidDirect. On LucidDaily funded accounts, traders must be flat from 1 minute before to 1 minute after high-impact USD news, or the account is breached). Phidias Propfirm: allowed (News trading is permitted on all account types and stages, though taking full margin into high-volatility releases is discouraged as lottery-style trading).
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